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- Date: Sun, 19 Jun 94 04:30:17 PDT
- From: Ham-Digital Mailing List and Newsgroup <ham-digital@ucsd.edu>
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- Subject: Ham-Digital Digest V94 #201
- To: Ham-Digital
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- Ham-Digital Digest Sun, 19 Jun 94 Volume 94 : Issue 201
-
- Today's Topics:
- AEA MBA Code Reader Input Wanted
- finding the freq of an xtal
- GTOR evaluation/update?
- Ham-Digital Digest V94 #199
- Microwave data transmission
- SCANNER BAN COMING
-
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-
- Date: 18 Jun 1994 20:07:25 -0700
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.kei.com!hookup!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!rain.org!coyote!leigh@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: AEA MBA Code Reader Input Wanted
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- Recently I bought a used AEA "MBA Reader" without a manual, and would
- appreciate any hints and input on how to use it.
-
- Thus far I've been able to decode some CW and one RTTY transmission. The
- RTTY was on 20 meters, and the MBA was set at the "60" setting.
-
- Can it also decode AMTOR/SITOR and 300 baud HF packet? If so, how?
-
- For CW, I don't think it works quite as well as a PK-232 I've used.
-
- The most logical way I've found to use it, is to turn the "threshold"
- adjustment untill both LEDs go out, and then find a strong signal, and
- then tune the signal so both LEDs are of equal brightness. Is this correct??
-
- Thanks and 73 from Leigh/KM6JE.
-
- PS: BTW, I paid 30 bucks for the "MBA": is this reasonable?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Jun 1994 22:55:16 -0700
- From: nntp.crl.com!crl3.crl.com!not-for-mail@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: finding the freq of an xtal
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- I have a xtal of unknown value (~8.7mhz) that I need to find the exact
- frequency of. What is the best way to do this? I do have a frequency
- counter, sho should I build a xtal osc and use the coutner? How bout
- a simple osc made out of cmos parts like the 4011? If so what would
- be a good schematic to use to do this? I need to be quite accurate.
-
- thanx,
-
- mycal
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 13:46:19 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!rogjd@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: GTOR evaluation/update?
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- hamilton on BIX (hamilton@BIX.com) wrote:
-
- : I also would be interested in hearing reports from those who've tried
- : these different protocols. But I must say, from the evidence in front
- : of me, it looks like Clover, available only in the IBM PC plug-in board
- : from HAL, is going to have a miserable time against a protocol available
- : in a standard outboard TNC unless its technical advantages are just
- : overwhelming. Add on that the HAL board is far more expensive than
- : the KAM Plus w/ GTOR and it's Marketing 101: Clover has no possible
- : chance against GTOR: the price and configuration disadvantages of the
- : HAL product make its success completely unimaginable to me.
-
- : No surprise, if you call up any of the ham equipment stores and ask
- : for a recommendation (which is really the same as asking what sells
- : the most, usually) the answer is the KAM Plus, no question.
-
- That is exactly the point. If G-TOR is anywhere near as good as Clover
- (or Pactor II, when it arrives, which will also require new hardware)
- then there is little reason for anyone to migrate to Clover/PactorII.
- GTOR can be a simple firmware upgrade for pretty much any multimode TNC,
- at nominal cost.
-
- There has been a fair amount of technical discussion regarding whether or
- not GTOR really does deliver on the claims made by Kantronics (Don't ask
- me :) )
-
- But would sure like to hear from actual GTOR users who have had the
- chance to really determine how it compares to Amtor and Pactor.
-
- 73
- --
- rogjd@netcom.com
- Glendale, CA
- AB6WR
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Jun 94 17:43:25 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Ham-Digital Digest V94 #199
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- In a former treatise, Ham-Digital Mailing List and Newsgroup spake thusly:
-
- -> Modern railays use "block control/detection" for location of trains. This
- -> system relies on the the fact that a railroad train can be a moving short
- -> circuit. This fact is detected for block detection and to signal level
- -> crossings of the presence of trains. To do this the rail system is delib-
- -> erately insulated into sections. A low voltage bridge circuit is used to
- -> detect the short between the two tracks. The reason a bridge is used is
- -> to compensate for ground leakage due to wet ties.
-
- At road grade crossings, the track is shunted at a certain distance from the
- crossing on both sides of the crossing. A constant-current low frequency
- sine wave signal is fed into the track at the crossing, and the track acts
- as a BIG inductor. When the train crosses the shunt, it is now a rolling
- short, making the inductor smaller and smaller as the train gets closer
- to the crossing. Equipment in the wayside box monitors the phase and voltage
- of the track signal and computes not only how far the train is away from
- the crossing, but also how fast its going. The gates always come down at
- X number of seconds before the train gets to the crossing. When the train
- passes the crossing, the rolling shunt is moving away now, and the box
- detects this and brings the gates up immediately. The gates also come
- up if the incoming shunt reduces it's speed to less than 3 miles per
- hour or so.. There is an "island" around the immediate area of the
- crossing where the gate will always stay down if the shunt is within the
- island, regardless of speed...
-
- To make all this work, especially where there are many road crossings
- close to each other, insulated joints and various track frequencies,
- as well as tuned shunts, notch filters and peak filters, .etc are used.
-
- A radio signal wouldn't go very far in this environment..
-
-
-
- ->
- -> BTW track maintenance gear has insulated wheels so that they don't trip the
- -> detection circuitry.
- ->
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- 73 de Mike, ax.25net: N6KUY@W6JBT.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA
- amprnet: n6kuy@n6kuy.ampr.org [44.18.0.49]
- internet : mwestfal@silicon.csci.csusb.edu
- "Old MacDonald had a farm, dit didit dit didit dahdahdah."
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 10:07:29 +0000
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!pipex!demon!mole.demon.co.uk!Richard@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Microwave data transmission
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm looking at the possibility of using a microwave link for computer data
- and voice communications between my house and a friends house. He lives
- about 3/4 mile away across open fields, and we can get line-of-sight except
- for a big tree right in the line, nearer to his house. (otherwise I'd maybe
- use infra-red!)
-
- Any comments?
-
- Anyone with any experience?
-
- Any published data?
-
- Thanks,
-
- Richard Smith (richard@mole.demon.co.uk)
-
- Antique & classic Auto restorer, Agricultural engineer, shepherd,
- electrician, electronics design engineer (in order of income!)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Jun 1994 17:32:38 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!freenet3.scri.fsu.edu!freenet2.scri.fsu.edu!sjking@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: SCANNER BAN COMING
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- Chuck Zeps (chuck.zeps@dt-can.com) wrote:
- > ----------------------------------------------------------------
- > From a CANADIAN PRESS article of Friday 17 June 1994
- > ----------------------------------------------------------------
-
- > PHONE SCANNERS LIKELY TO BE BANNED
-
- [article deleted]
-
- > SECURITY ISSUES: " The Government is very concerned about privacy
- > and security issues," said Gerrard, who attended the two-day meeting.
-
- When are people going to realize that if you want privacy, don't use a
- mode of communication that sends your conversation out into the
- ether? The cellular phone mfgrs and companies are aiding in
- continuing the ignorance of the public about the lack of security of
- cordless communications. They would rather make listening illegal
- than risk having to tell their customers that using a cellular or
- cordless phone is like talking to your next door neighbor with a
- bullhorn, or actually having to find a way to encrypt their signals to
- prevent off-the-shelf receivers to listen to them.
-
- --
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